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Right now, one in five Greeks is out of work.
現在，每五個希臘人就有一個人失業。

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When people have no money, no jobs, and plenty of anger, extremists suddenly get more of a look-in. 
人民一旦沒有錢、沒有工作，又懷著滿腔怒火，極端主義者就會突然得到比較多關切。

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It's a worrying trend through history, and it's showing up again in Europe. 
這是歷史上令人擔憂的趨勢，現在又再度出現在歐洲。

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For some, its echoes... it echoes chilling memories of the 1930s. 
對於某些人而言，這種現象喚起了一九三○年代令人膽寒的回憶。

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Tonight, senior international correspondent Matthew Chance looks at how ongoing hardship has changed the political debate in Greece.
今晚，資深國際特派員馬修‧錢斯檢視持續不斷的艱困處境如何改變了希臘的政治辯論。

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There are some things in Greece that just don't change. 
在希臘，有些東西就是不會變。

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This old Athens eatery in Monastiraki has been serving up traditional gyros, or kababs, for generations. 
這家位於蒙納斯提拉奇的雅典老餐館供應希臘傳統的三明治——或稱卡巴烤肉——已有幾個世代之久。

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Politics in recent decades has been another constant.
近數十年來的政治局勢也是另一項不變的常態。

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But as the restaurant's owner shows me photographs of past celebrities and politicians who've eaten here, 
不過，就在餐廳老闆拿出照片，讓我看看過去有哪些名人和政治人物到這裡用過餐的同時，

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the political landscape has radically changed. The old guard has been swept aside.
這裡的政治局勢卻已有了劇烈的變化。過往的那一套已被拋到一旁了。

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I am sad, because I believe Greeks are very peaceful people. 
我很難過，因為我認為希臘人是很和平的民族。

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This is where democracy was founded. We are a democratic country. We were never extremists.
民主是在這裡建立的，我們是一個民主的國家。我們從來就不是極端主義者。

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But for the first time in a Greek election, an extreme ultranationalist party has been elected to parliament. 
然而，希臘選舉卻首度將一個偏激的超國家主義政黨送入國會。

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Golden Dawn is a thinly veiled neo-Nazi group linked with attacks on immigrants they want deported.
金色黎明黨是個幾乎不掩飾的新納粹團體，涉及攻擊他們想要遣送出境的外來移民。

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Sometimes there have been some big accusations about us and in the end what was it? 
有時候，有些人對我們提出嚴厲的指控，但這些指控終究是什麼呢？

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It was between immigrants from Pakistan, but they...
問題發生在來自巴基斯坦的移民之間，但他們……

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someone from Pakistan beat another guy from Pakistan for their own reasons, and he was blaming us and so on and so forth. 
來自巴基斯坦的某個人打了另一個來自巴基斯坦的傢伙，是因為他們自己的事由，結果他卻怪罪在我們頭上等等。

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We have proofs for this. You can just go and find out. (Are you denying that members of the Golden Dawn carry out violent attacks against immigrants?)
我們有證據。你可以自己去探究看看。(你否認金色黎明黨的成員以暴力攻擊外來移民？)

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Yes. Maybe they are protecting themselves.
沒錯。也許他們是在保護自己。

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Are you... so, you're acknowledging they do do it?
你是……所以，你是承認他們確實有那麼做了？

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Maybe they are protecting themselves like people who are... (And now you're explaining it?)
也許他們是在保護自己，就像人們……(現在你是在提出辯解嗎？)

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Yeah. People... no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying that the situation in Greece is terrible. 
是啊，人們……不、不、不，不是，不是。我是說希臘的狀況很糟糕。

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People are going out from their homes, and they are robbed, raped, killed for nothing.
很多人一走出家門，就無緣無故遭到搶劫、強暴、殺害。

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Well, sitting in this sunny cafe outside parliament, you might be mistaken for thinking that nothing's really changed in Greece and that things aren't so bad after all. 
坐在國會外這家陽光燦爛的咖啡廳裡，你也許會誤以為希臘其實沒怎麼改變，情況其實也沒那麼糟糕。

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But there has been a dramatic shift here away from the center ground. Austerity and economic hardship have pushed ordinary Greeks to look for solutions in the extremes. 
不過，希臘已經從中間立場大幅偏移了。緊縮政策與經濟困境已迫使一般希臘民眾走向極端尋求解決方法。

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Views once only voiced on the fringes of political debate now appear mainstream.
過去只能在政治辯論的邊緣喊話的觀點，現在似乎已蔚為主流。

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And it's not just the neo-Nazis who've benefited. 
受益的不僅是新納粹主義者。

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For months now, popular -- often violent -- protests against austerity have been spearheaded by anarchists and far left-wing groups like Communists. 
幾個月來，反對緊縮政策的群眾抗議活動常以暴力收場，帶頭的則是無政府主義者和激進左派團體，例如共產主義者。

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The election was the first chance for Greeks to vent their anger at the ballot box instead of the streets.
這場選舉是希臘人第一次有機會將怒氣發洩在投票箱上，而不是街頭上。

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Now, the Coalition of the Radical Left who I met in their own television studio has emerged as a major political force. 
激進左派聯盟，我曾在他們自己的電視台裡見過，現在已經竄起成為一股政治力主力。

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Their utopian pledge:
他們提出烏托邦式的訴求：

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to cancel Greek debt and restore living standards to pre-austerity levels. They could form the next government.
取消希臘債務，回復生活水準到實施緊縮政策之前的程度。他們有可能組成下一屆政府。

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Our basic priorities is... are the salvation of all the minimum social standards. And this means wages, pensions, health care and public education.
我們基本的優先考量是……挽救所有的基本社會標準，包括薪資、退休金、健保與公共教育。

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If you want to increase pensions and wages and living standards, who's going to pay for that?
如果你們要提高退休金、薪資和生活水準，誰要來付這些錢呢？

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The answer is very simple: the rich will pay for the crisis they created.
答案很簡單：富人應該為他們造成的危機付出代價。

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Back in Monastiraki, there are still many things that unite Greeks. 
回到蒙納斯提拉奇，目前仍有許多事物把希臘人凝聚在一起。

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But this election has exposed and widened their divisions, setting Greece down an uncertain path.
不過，這場選舉已經揭露並且擴大了他們的裂痕，將希臘帶上了一條充滿不確定性的道路。