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This week on Leading Women, we meet a trailblazing CEO who says she dares her employees to fail.
本週的《女性當家》，我們會見一位具有開拓精神的執行長，她說她鼓勵員工勇於嘗試失敗。

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Eva Chen is one of the few women top executives in global IT,
陳怡樺是全球資訊科技業中少數的高階女性主管之一，

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and her innovative approach to helping employees achieve their potential by learning from mistakes has seen her company rise to the very top of its field.
她以創新的方式協助員工透過從錯誤中學習來發揮潛能，這使她的公司躍升成為其領域中的佼佼者。

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You can call her a super commuter -- from Taiwan to Tokyo to California, all in just seven days,
你可以說她是個超級空中飛人——從台灣到東京到加州，全程在七天內完成，

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a typical week for Eva Chen as CEO of tech company Trend Micro.
這是科技公司趨勢科技執行長陳怡樺典型的一週。

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Trend Micro is a global company. We always say we are a security company.
趨勢科技是一家全球性的公司，我們總是說自己是一家安全公司。

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And cyber criminal[s] are global, so [a] cyber policeman has to be global.
網路犯罪全球都有，所以網路警察也必須是全球性的。

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Trend Micro is the third-largest online security software company in the world, a leader in cloud security.
趨勢科技是全球第三大網路安全軟體公司，也是雲端網路安全的領導者。

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They say their goal is to protect user data and create a safe place for digital sharing.
他們說他們的目標是保護用戶資料，並為數位分享建立一個安全場所。

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Oh, you're talking about a user, not end point.
喔，你是在說使用端，而非終端。

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When it comes to running her company and her life, Chen takes a bold approach.
說到經營她的公司和她的人生，陳怡樺採取的是果敢大膽的方式。

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Your personal motto is dance your best dance and let others dance theirs.
您的個人座右銘是自己盡力而為，並且讓別人盡情發揮。

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We are in the knowledge economy, right?
我們身處在知識經濟裡，對吧？

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The knowledge will create most of the value for our customers.
知識會為我們的客戶創造大部分的價值。

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And you cannot manage people for them to come out with knowledge or innovation.
你無法透過管理讓員工去產生知識或創新，

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You must let them dance their best dance to unveil their best potential, and innovation come[s] from there.
你必須要讓他們盡情發揮，以便展露他們最大的潛能，創新就是那樣來的。

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And this is it. This is your control center here in Tokyo.
就是這裡。這是你在東京這裡的控制中心。

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Yes. This is our TrendLabs and control center here.
對，這裡就是我們的趨勢實驗室和控制中心。

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But with innovation, there are sometimes missteps.
但說到創新，有時候卻免不了出差錯。

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In 2005, an antivirus file made by Trend Micro caused computers all over the world to crash.
二○○五年，一個由趨勢科技製作的防毒檔案造成全球各地的電腦當機。

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Did you doubt yourself and your ability to be the CEO of Trend Micro?
你懷疑過自己和擔任趨勢科技執行長的能力嗎？

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No, I didn't.
沒有，沒懷疑過。

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Trend Micro's philosophy helped me to not doubt myself, but thinking [to think] what is the best way to address this problem.
趨勢科技的哲學幫助我不去懷疑自己，而是去思考什麼才是解決這個問題的最佳辦法。

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At the crisis time, you show your real face, right?
在危機時刻，你會展現出你的真面目，是吧？

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It's a big challenge, but it's so great that the whole company come [came] out stronger than before and come [came] out with this security from the cloud innovation.
那是個大挑戰，但很棒的是，整個公司在事後變得比以往更為茁壯，並且推出了雲端網路安全的創新作法。

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Wow, no. I like Ironman.
哇，不。我喜歡鋼鐵人。

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Chen says they learned from that mistake,
陳怡樺說他們從那次的錯誤中學到教訓，

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and those lessons helped propel Trend Micro to the forefront in cloud security technology.
那些教訓有助將趨勢科技推上雲端網路安全的領導品牌之列。

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This is a quote from your company Web site about a philosophy here at Trend Micro, and it reads as follows,
這是引述自貴公司網站中一段有關趨勢科技的經營哲學，它是這樣說的：

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"We drive our growth by innovation, we encourage risk-taking, and our management style dares you to fail."
「我們透過創新驅動成長，我們鼓勵冒險，而且我們的管理風格鼓勵勇於嘗試失敗。」

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Yes.
是的。

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I mean, really? I mean, at Trend Micro do you encourage your employees to fail?
我的意思是，是真的嗎？你們在趨勢科技鼓勵員工失敗嗎？

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I have this philosophy of...
我的哲學是，

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you create [an] environment for them to freely innovate and have fun without serious damage [to] the company, right?
建構一個可以讓員工自由創新、樂在其中的環境，但不會嚴重傷害公司，對嗎？

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So when I teach kids, I don't tell them don't do this, don't do that.
所以我在教小孩的時候，我不會告訴他們不能做這個，不能做那個，

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But you create an environment that's safe enough and let them explore.
而是你要建構一個夠安全的環境，讓他們去探索，

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Just make sure that you create that safe environment.
只要確保你建構的環境是安全的就行了。