This week on Leading Women, we meet a trailblazing CEO who says she dares her employees to fail. 本週的《女性當家》，我們會見一位具有開拓精神的執行長，她說她鼓勵員工勇於嘗試失敗。
Eva Chen is one of the few women top executives in global IT, 陳怡樺是全球資訊科技業中少數的高階女性主管之一，
and her innovative approach to helping employees achieve their potential by learning from mistakes has seen her company rise to the very top of its field. 她以創新的方式協助員工透過從錯誤中學習來發揮潛能，這使她的公司躍升成為其領域中的佼佼者。
You can call her a super commuter -- from Taiwan to Tokyo to California, all in just seven days, 你可以說她是個超級空中飛人——從台灣到東京到加州，全程在七天內完成，
a typical week for Eva Chen as CEO of tech company Trend Micro. 這是科技公司趨勢科技執行長陳怡樺典型的一週。
Trend Micro is a global company. We always say we are a security company. 趨勢科技是一家全球性的公司，我們總是說自己是一家安全公司。
And cyber criminal[s] are global, so [a] cyber policeman has to be global. 網路犯罪全球都有，所以網路警察也必須是全球性的。
Trend Micro is the third-largest online security software company in the world, a leader in cloud security. 趨勢科技是全球第三大網路安全軟體公司，也是雲端網路安全的領導者。
They say their goal is to protect user data and create a safe place for digital sharing. 他們說他們的目標是保護用戶資料，並為數位分享建立一個安全場所。
Oh, you're talking about a user, not end point. 喔，你是在說使用端，而非終端。
When it comes to running her company and her life, Chen takes a bold approach. 說到經營她的公司和她的人生，陳怡樺採取的是果敢大膽的方式。
Your personal motto is dance your best dance and let others dance theirs. 您的個人座右銘是自己盡力而為，並且讓別人盡情發揮。
We are in the knowledge economy, right? 我們身處在知識經濟裡，對吧？
The knowledge will create most of the value for our customers. 知識會為我們的客戶創造大部分的價值。
And you cannot manage people for them to come out with knowledge or innovation. 你無法透過管理讓員工去產生知識或創新，
You must let them dance their best dance to unveil their best potential, and innovation come[s] from there. 你必須要讓他們盡情發揮，以便展露他們最大的潛能，創新就是那樣來的。
And this is it. This is your control center here in Tokyo. 就是這裡。這是你在東京這裡的控制中心。
Yes. This is our TrendLabs and control center here. 對，這裡就是我們的趨勢實驗室和控制中心。
But with innovation, there are sometimes missteps. 但說到創新，有時候卻免不了出差錯。
In 2005, an antivirus file made by Trend Micro caused computers all over the world to crash. 二○○五年，一個由趨勢科技製作的防毒檔案造成全球各地的電腦當機。
Did you doubt yourself and your ability to be the CEO of Trend Micro? 你懷疑過自己和擔任趨勢科技執行長的能力嗎？
No, I didn't. 沒有，沒懷疑過。
Trend Micro's philosophy helped me to not doubt myself, but thinking [to think] what is the best way to address this problem. 趨勢科技的哲學幫助我不去懷疑自己，而是去思考什麼才是解決這個問題的最佳辦法。
At the crisis time, you show your real face, right? 在危機時刻，你會展現出你的真面目，是吧？
It's a big challenge, but it's so great that the whole company come [came] out stronger than before and come [came] out with this security from the cloud innovation. 那是個大挑戰，但很棒的是，整個公司在事後變得比以往更為茁壯，並且推出了雲端網路安全的創新作法。
Wow, no. I like Ironman. 哇，不。我喜歡鋼鐵人。
Chen says they learned from that mistake, 陳怡樺說他們從那次的錯誤中學到教訓，
and those lessons helped propel Trend Micro to the forefront in cloud security technology. 那些教訓有助將趨勢科技推上雲端網路安全的領導品牌之列。
This is a quote from your company Web site about a philosophy here at Trend Micro, and it reads as follows, 這是引述自貴公司網站中一段有關趨勢科技的經營哲學，它是這樣說的：
"We drive our growth by innovation, we encourage risk-taking, and our management style dares you to fail." 「我們透過創新驅動成長，我們鼓勵冒險，而且我們的管理風格鼓勵勇於嘗試失敗。」
Yes. 是的。
I mean, really? I mean, at Trend Micro do you encourage your employees to fail? 我的意思是，是真的嗎？你們在趨勢科技鼓勵員工失敗嗎？
I have this philosophy of... 我的哲學是，
you create [an] environment for them to freely innovate and have fun without serious damage [to] the company, right? 建構一個可以讓員工自由創新、樂在其中的環境，但不會嚴重傷害公司，對嗎？
So when I teach kids, I don't tell them don't do this, don't do that. 所以我在教小孩的時候，我不會告訴他們不能做這個，不能做那個，
But you create an environment that's safe enough and let them explore. 而是你要建構一個夠安全的環境，讓他們去探索，
Just make sure that you create that safe environment. 只要確保你建構的環境是安全的就行了。