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Scott Jurek has been called the "King of Pain" and the greatest ultramarathoner ever.
史考特‧傑瑞克被人稱為「艱苦之王」，也是史上最了不起的超級馬拉松選手。

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Ultramarathons can be 125 miles longer than a typical 26-mile marathon.
比起一般二十六英里長的馬拉松，超級馬拉松的長度可能要多出一百二十五英里。

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Scott finished his first in 1994, and since then, he's dominated the sport.
史考特在一九九四年跑完他的第一場超馬賽跑，此後就稱霸了這項運動。

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Today he holds records for these races that cover more than 150 miles and last over 24 hours straight.
如今他在逾一百五十英里及連續二十四小時以上的比賽中都是紀錄保持人。

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A notoriously tough ultramarathon is the 135-mile Badwater in Death Valley, California.
其中一場特別艱苦的超馬比賽，就是在加州死谷舉行的一百三十五英里惡水超級馬拉松。

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In 2005, to get through the 130-degree heat, Scott was dunked in this king-sized cooler full of ice water.
二○○五年參賽時，史考特為了捱過華氏一百三十度的高溫，全身浸泡在這個裝滿冰水的大型冷卻槽裡。

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Halfway through the race, he collapsed, and for ten minutes he didn't move.
他在比賽半途累垮在地上，長達十分鐘一動不動。

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But he managed to get up and not only finish the race, but shatter the course record.
不過，他還是勉力爬了起來，不但完成比賽，還打破了比賽紀錄。

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Scott says it was his mother, Lynn, who taught him how to persevere.
史考特說，是母親琳恩教了他如何堅忍不拔。

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She died last March after living with multiple sclerosis for 30 years.
他的母親罹患多發性硬化症三十年後，在去年三月逝世。

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So what propels you to be able to do some of these things? Running the distances you do?
是什麼驅使你有辦法做到這些事情？跑那麼遠的距離？

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A lot of people wouldn't even dream of it.
這是許多人連做夢都不敢想的事情。

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I think for me it's that self-exploration,
對我來說，我想是自我探索吧，

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that idea of there's something out there and the desire to see what my body,
知道外面有個未知的世界，還有渴望知道自己的身體、

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what my mind and down to what my spirit can do.
心智、終歸說來是精神，可以達到什麼地步。

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Were you always a runner? I mean, how did this start?
你一直都在從事跑步嗎？我是說，你是怎麼開始參與這種運動的？

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For me, I actually used to hate running.
其實我以前不喜歡跑步。

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I grew up hunting and fishing in northern Minnesota, and that really was where I got connected with the outdoors.
我小時候經常在明尼蘇達州北部打獵和釣魚，也就是這樣的經歷讓我喜愛野外。

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And I had got[ten] interested in running through Nordic ski racing and had to get ready for the,
我後來是因為參加北歐滑雪比賽而對跑步產生興趣，

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basically, the snow season by doing some running on the ski trails.
因為我必須先在滑雪道上跑步，為即將來臨的雪季做準備。

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You obviously do this competitively. What's the furthest distance you've ever run? 
你跑步的好勝心顯然很強。你跑過最長的距離是多遠？

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The furthest distance I've run is 165.7 miles in 24 hours.
我跑過最長的距離，是在二十四小時內跑了一百六十五點七英里。

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So tell me how that works. Are you taking breaks or what are you doing?
告訴我你是怎麼做到的。你中途有休息嗎？還是有做什麼？

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So the more time I take breaks�Kthe clock is always going,
我休息的時間愈多……時間不會等我，

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so the idea is to continue running throughout and as much as you can, 'cause you only get 24 hours.
所以重點就是從頭到尾持續跑步，盡自己所能盡量地跑，因為你只有二十四個小時。

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And the only times I did stop were to go to the bathroom, basically, and even eating is done on the run.
基本上，我會停下來的時候只是為了上廁所，連吃東西都是邊跑邊吃。

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Have you heard about the medical aspects of this? What have you been told?
你有沒有聽說過醫學方面的說法？有人跟你說過什麼嗎？

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Well, I think it helps...I'm actually a physical therapist and so know a little bit about the body.
我覺得有幫助……其實我本身是物理治療師，所以對人體稍有了解。

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But you know, is it healthy to go that far in that amount of time?
不過，在那樣的時間內跑那麼遠健康嗎？

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You know, it's hard to say, but the human body was built for endurance. If you look at our ancestors and what they did...
很難說，可是人體天生就有忍耐力。

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I mean, even think of my great grandparents and what they did for work out in the fields.
看看我們的祖先以及他們所做的事情……我是說，甚至看我曾祖父母在田裡工作的情形。

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And I think maybe our perception of what is normal has changed over the years.
我認為我們對於何謂正常的看法多年以來可能已經有所改變。

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And I like to always refer to what people used to do.
我總是喜歡參照人們從前做的事。

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You talk about exploration and maybe to some extent exploring what the body can do,
你提到了探索，在某種程度上可能也在探索人體能夠做到什麼地步。

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but at some point you made the decision to say,
不過，你畢竟還是做了個決定，

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I'm gonna go from someone who didn't like to run to racing in the hardest, presumably, running competitions in the world.
從原本不喜歡跑步，到參加堪稱世界上最艱苦的跑步競賽。

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Was there a moment when that happened for you and you said, "I can actually do this"?
是不是有某個時間點讓你突然改變心意，對自己說：「我做得到」？

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I think it was probably after my first 50-miler, after my first ultramarathon.
我想大概是在我參加了第一場五十英里的比賽之後，

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I'd run a marathon and then a month later decided to do this 50-mile race a buddy of mine,
在我的第一場超級馬拉松之後。我當時跑完了一場馬拉松，一個月後決定參加這場五十英里的賽跑。

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Dusty Olson, said you've got to try this out.
我的一位朋友達斯提‧歐森說，你一定要跑五十英里看看。

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And at 20 years old, most 20-year-olds aren't thinking about running 50 miles,
當時我才二十歲。大多數二十歲的年輕人通常不會想要跑五十英里，

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but after I had completed that I said, of course, "Never again."
所以我完成那場比賽之後，原本也是說：「再也不要了。」

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But it was after a few hours, and I was like, "You know, yeah, I can...I think I can be pretty good at this."
不過，才幾個小時之後，我就不禁覺得：「其實，我可以……我覺得我可以在這種運動中表現得不錯。」

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Are you competing when you're out there? Are you competing against the other racers?
你在比賽的時候是在競爭嗎？你是在和其他選手競爭？

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Against yourself? Running away from something?
還是和自己競爭？或是想逃離什麼？

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I like to say I'm trying not to compete. I'm trying to work with my body. I'm not compete [competing] against myself.
我會說我盡量不要去競爭。我盡量和自己的身體協調合作，而不是和自己競爭。

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Obviously, there's a clock out there.
當然比賽會計時，

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And I do use the other racers in the competition to push my body to that edge because the competition really helps,
而我確實會利用同一場比賽中的其他選手來敦促自己把體能發揮到極限，

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you know, explore those boundaries -- you know, what am I capable of?
因為競爭確實有助於探索體能的極限，看我自己能做到什麼程度？
